posted 02-07-2000 11:04 PM         

We started dissolving 60g NaOH in 3/4 a bottle of everclear(tm). Once the NaOH was sufficiantly dissolved (the solution was a bit clowdy, but nothing sitting on the bottom) we added 120mL gammabutyrolactone. POOF!!! VOALA!! crystals everywhere; big fluffy needles. There were so many crystals the solution turned to a muddy paste. I then told my friend to add the rest of the everclear, because I suspected some NaOH would recrystalize in the G, and I wanted to dissolve as much NaOH as I could before we filtered. So we added the rest of the EtOH and stirred the solution to break up the clumps of beautiful fluffy crystal. Then we gravity filtered (to anyone thinking of doing this- its very tedious- find another way. After all the filtering we had maybe 500ml of supernatent (tops), and some very soggy white stuff (eww).

So like the geniuses we are, we put the paste (coffee filters and all) in the oven to dry (at 200F). We started stinking up the public kitchen (and hallways) with the smell of everclear (RAs would definatly pounce on such an aroma, thinking they were catching some drinkers). Also the oven was pretty dirty, those fumes didnt help either. When we opened the oven, some of the big chunks had golden brown edges, wierd crystals had formed on the sheet itself (NaOH?), and there was some everclear on the tray also. Then we decided to abandon the kitchen, take the tray to our rooms, and resort to aternate drying methods. So its sitting under a halogen lamp on a heating pad as we speak.

So my questions are as follows:
1. There are some very tiny needles, but I see a lot of tiny flat surfaces (ionicly bonded crystals?). Is my G severly contaminated with NaOH?
2. If it does have a lot of NaOH, whet it combines with stomach acid (HCl), wouldnt it just form dissolved table salt and water? (yes, no prob) But if one dose contains too much NaOH, it could have a drastic effect on my stomachs pH (make me sick). To the best of my knowledge, stomach acid is only like 1.5 M. Wouldnt changing the pH in my stomach to like 8 or 9 be extremely terrible? Is such an occuance possible (with one gram of the stuff)?

I cant think of anymore questions right now, but I'd appreciate any advice as soon as possible, cuz we plan on testing it out tonight. Thanks you ohh so dear bees

posted 02-08-2000 03:56 AM         

Please take this as constructive criticism and learn from this experience. I am not flaming, but my tone is required due to the nature of your post!

Ok, so my tip is, I always do another method that does not require the use of EtOH,(why you wanna waste some good shit anyway) and only uses DH2O and NaOH and GBL, then use as is or evap. the water slowly for powder!
But not necessary as I and others usually water down 5-1 to make dosage easier and less prone to OD!
I can't remember where I got the synth but it is in these halls somewhere.

Yes wrong PH will make you ill, and from my experience slightly changes the effect!

Checking and adjusting PH is absolutely necessary, 7-8,

OK from memory:
200mLs GBL
103gms NaOH
160mLs DH2O

Heat GBL with 5mLs water to 100.C
In another beaker Dissolve NaOH in 160mLs DH2O
Take off heat, rxn will be enough heat
Very slowly add NaOH water to GBL (careful it will boil over)
Add 90% of water then check PH, adjust as necessary!
Thats it, carefully boil down and then finish in low oven, or water down 5-1 for safety, and dont leave it in the fridge for someone to accidently drink as water!

Its really god damn fuckin easy!
Kindergarten kids do these synths for homework!
Now dont let me hear any stories like that again!

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posted 02-08-2000 11:38 AM         

Very good constructive critisism, no offense taken Three of us weighed 1.8g of the shit, put it in capsules and tested it out. In preperation for the large percentage of NaOH, we all drank a glass of water followed by some orange juice. After 45 with no noticable effect, we each took another .8g. I felt a slight relaxation effect, but this might have been because I had been up for 22hrs or so. The others noticed a bit of relaxation also, so we took another .8g. Over all, there was no drastic effect. So Im thinking a lage percentage of the stuff is just lye. Im going to test the melting point right now. NaOH melts a 318C, if anything melts before that, it should be G; this might provide a bit more knowledge.

posted 02-08-2000 03:59 PM         

One more thing: is the lactone + NaOH --> GHB a very slow reaction? I know you said with good stirring Os, if its really slow how long should it stir? I suppose I could just take my time.